Remakes are now laughable
Your right it's getting ridiculous, I know we always had them but the last 8 years is getting bad.
The Rob Zombie Halloween remake was very good and I stated it was a masterpiece. It is the ONLY horror remake I have liked though.
Yeah, I said it was a "masterpiece" ... please don't throw tomatoes at me.
Zombie's Halloween was, I thought, an admirable attempt at creating a generally intelligent, character-driven horror film while still retaining the obsessive, disturbing violence that is so common in films today, particularly those with Zombie at the helm. I think it succeeded for the first half of the film, detailing Michael's childhood, and completely plummeted in the second half, becoming another poorly made romp with unlikable teenage characters. Some people complained about Zombie's attempt to reveal Michael's back story, but I don't understand why. I mean, the cat's out of the bag, see? If you've ever watched the series past film three, Michael no longer has that same threatening ambiguity that made the first film so damned scary. I thought what Zombie did with the first half of the film was better than just doing a straight remake, which probably would have been God-awful.
Zombie's Halloween was, I thought, an admirable attempt at creating a generally intelligent, character-driven horror film while still retaining the obsessive, disturbing violence that is so common in films today, particularly those with Zombie at the helm. I think it succeeded for the first half of the film, detailing Michael's childhood, and completely plummeted in the second half, becoming another poorly made romp with unlikable teenage characters. Some people complained about Zombie's attempt to reveal Michael's back story, but I don't understand why. I mean, the cat's out of the bag, see? If you've ever watched the series past film three, Michael no longer has that same threatening ambiguity that made the first film so damned scary. I thought what Zombie did with the first half of the film was better than just doing a straight remake, which probably would have been God-awful.
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Nice comments you made about the film.I thought the violence wasn't gratuitice violence but rather violence you would get realistically.I especially like the realism of the film with respect to stunts ... when a person falls through the ceiling and lands on the floor below they actually get hurt.The topless sex scene obviously would really happen and if attacked while having sex would not be looking for her clothes before running around for her life. So I have read and seen people make comments about having a topless girl in it as classic stuff just done to have boobs in it.I didn't get that feeling from watching it.The biggest thing I have to say though is when the film leaked as a woprkprint torrent that people did not see the final edited version which inclkuded some reshoots. The workprint was sloppy and unfinished.I will also state that the theatrical version is way better than the most available for purchase version which is the director's cut.The theatrical doesn't have that stupid rape scene when Michael escapes, it has the regular normal escape scene which I prefer.
I don't know. The 2004 Dawn of the Dead remake by Zack Snyder was one of the best zombie films since well... since 1985 Day of the Dead.
Yea.. I said it.
The best since..
a friend of mine who lives in Atl is actually an extra in the next rob zombie halloween movie......i told him to kick rob zombie in the balls(and he was an asshole for doing it) if he saw him....on principal. fucking assholes remaking PERFECT movies. fuck them and the douche bags that watch them.
I really liked the first Rob Zombie remake. I just saw the second one and it was nothing like the first. I wrote a review of it, here it is. Do not expect what you saw in the first one is all I have to say and you can read the review if you are so inclined.
the OP has a point-uglysexy
It's on the top of his head.
1stly I have the unrated version "Halloween" the Zombie version & while it's a decent film. it's not a film i'd keep watching all the time. i got it for X-mas. & no it's no masterpiece you are actually the 1st person i've EVER heard call it that. online or off. the i love the remake of "Night of the living dead" Circa (1990) & of course the remake of 'Dawn of the dead' THAT i'd call a masterpiece the uncut version of course. there are a few good remakes but they are getting far less in between than they used to be.
The only real complaint I have with so many of the recent remakes is the lack of time between them and the originals. That and the need to ramp up the blood, gore and skin. Covering plot holes with fx and nudity works for Cinemax specialties only.
Most fans of the originals approach the coming remakes with a mixture of apprehension and disdain, as well as sharp knives at the ready to shred any deviations from the story that add nothing to the tale. Most director/ producers offer assurances that they respect the original product, but what I've seen so far indicates to me a greater zeal to push audience buttons (see above comment regarding gore and nudity).
So how long should folk wait until they attempt remakes? Maybe a better question is are original thinkers in the horror industry that few and far between?
I would like to state personally that I greatly enjoyed many times, and I own the DVD, the 2004 remake of Dawn of the Dead.
But it was not a good remake, They should have named it something else, because it was an infection movie not a real zombie movie.
Let me clarify my thoughts on this:
1) In an infection movie you must be infected in some way to be infected. Just like in 28 Days Later.
2) In a zombie movie you can have a hart attack and you will become a zombie.
3) In an infection movie if you die of a hart attack you don't come back as a zombie, you just stay
dead.
4) In a zombie movie zombies are shuffle and lurch after you.
5) In an infection movie the infected sprint and run after you.
I don't know, they looked dead to me after all they were decomposing like a rotting corps. Remember when that fat woman died in the bulding, no heary beat or nothing, she came back and chased that one nurse down. As for zombies slow and shuffulling, original zombies, showed up in the novle The Reanimator years befor Daw of the Dead or Night of the Living Dead, ran and sprinted. So I would have to disagree with your statment
Agreed! I think the worst remake yet (though not too recent) is House of Wax (2005)! I'm sorry, what was the point?? (Not really a remake - story line was completely different) oh oh oh and The Wickerman (2006) - WTF! I think the suicide rate jumped a few % points when that one came out!
I'm a remake fan and pretty much anything that comes from the classics as well. I've always said that nothing can ruin the great and mighty classics no matter what is done to the franchise afterwards... just my two cents. peace!
